In this episode, Bruce Bean talks with Patrick Butler, a civil engineer with Kimley-Horn, about his journey from aviation projects to becoming a key player in the data center development boom. Patrick shares how he helps clients vet sites, navigate zoning hurdles, assess infrastructure, and even plan for unique utilities like water and power usage.

He also reveals which Bay Area cities are open to data center expansion and which ones aren’t—and why. From land requirements to the impact of AI and cooling systems, Patrick breaks down the surprisingly complex world of these high-demand facilities.

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Ordinary Glory (Year of Bible Wk 45)