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The concluding part of the conversation with Glasgow Warrior Adam Ashe, he generously shares how his relationships with family members have positively transformed since gaining an understanding of the real cause of the human experience, i.e., Thought in the moment and nothing else, not what people do or say, situations or circumstance. Adam and Denise both share the point of when they realised that the people around them have wisdom too, and do not require their opinion, especially when they are coming from a place of judgement and personal identity.