385. The Fall of the Aztecs: The Woman Who Changed The World (Part 2)
Nov 7, 2023
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"The Rest Is History" explores the incredible story of Malinche, a Mayan slave-girl given to the Spanish who becomes Cortés's translator. They discuss her role as guide, lover, and advisor, and question if she's truly loyal to the Spaniards. The podcast delves into the motives and instructions of Cortés, the arrival of a Spanish speaker, the importance of language interpretation and cultural understanding, and the legal requirements and trials faced by conquistadors. They also explore the Spanish conquest of the Aztecs, including the role of firepower and fatal exchanges with the Aztecs.
Cortez and his men are motivated by promises of fame, wealth, and rewards in their conquest of the Aztecs.
Religion plays a role in Cortez's motivations, as he believes it is their duty to bring Christianity to the native peoples.
La Malinche, a young indigenous woman who speaks both Mayan and Spanish, becomes the key translator and negotiator between Cortez and the native peoples.
Deep dives
Cortez persuades his men to join his expedition
Cortez rallies his men, emphasizing the fame and rewards they will receive by venturing into vast and wealthy lands with unparalleled people. He offers them great rewards despite the hardships they may face. As long as they remain loyal, he promises to make them the wealthiest men who have ever crossed the sea. The men cheer and Cortez's golden standard is raised, symbolizing their commitment to the cause.
The motives and justifications of Cortez and the Spanish
Cortez's motives and justifications for the conquest are explored. While wealth and gold are strong motivations, religion also plays a role in their actions. Cortez and his men believe in their duty to bring Christianity to the native populations and view their conquests as a means to achieve this goal. However, there is also a complex ambivalence among the Spanish regarding the justification for their actions, with debates on how Christianity should be imposed on the conquered peoples.
Cortez's recruitment of Geronimo de Aguilar and La Malinche
Cortez recruits Geronimo de Aguilar, a Spaniard who has spent years living among the Mayans, as an interpreter to communicate with the various indigenous groups. However, it is La Malinche, a young indigenous woman who speaks both Mayan and Spanish, who becomes the key translator and negotiator between Cortez and the native peoples. La Malinche detests the Mexica, the Aztecs, and sees the Spanish as an opportunity for vengeance and allies against her enemies.
The establishment of Villa Rica de la Vera Cruz
Cortez makes the bold decision to establish a settlement called Villa Rica de la Vera Cruz. He convinces his men to resign from the expedition and become citizens of the new town. By doing this, he secures legal sanction, avoids prosecution for disobeying his orders, and creates a base for further actions. He sends some of his men back to Spain with treasure to gain favor with the king. The remaining ships are beached for timber and no return.
Preparations for the march on Tenochtitlan
Cortez assembles his men on the beach and reveals his plan to march on Tenochtitlan, the capital of the Aztec Empire. The Spanish prepare mentally and physically, with mass being celebrated before the big moment. The pivotal episode ends with Cortez stepping up to address his men and share his plan for the upcoming confrontation.
Hernán Cortés has set sail from Cuba, eager to find the truth behind the rumours of gold on the coast of Mexico. Ahead lies a world he can barely imagine - a land of pyramid temples, terrifying gods and unknown peoples - the empire of the Aztecs. But Cortés has a secret weapon: a woman whose very name has become a byword for treachery …
In today’s episode, Dominic and Tom explore the extraordinary story of Malinche, the slave-girl given by the Mayans to the Spanish, who becomes Cortés’s translator, guide, lover and adviser. As the expedition moves north along the Mexican coast, is she really doing the Spaniards’ bidding? Or has she secretly taken control, leading them ever closer to a tumultuous and bloody showdown? For all the time, Montezuma is waiting …
Don’t miss the second episode in this thrilling account of the Fall of the Aztecs!
*Dominic’s book The Fall of the Aztecs is available now from bookshops across the UK - the perfect Christmas present!*
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