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Late Show Book Club | 'People Like Us'

Oct 13, 2025
Jason Mott, an award-winning novelist and poet, chats about his latest novel, 'People Like Us.' He shares insights on transitioning from a memoir to metafiction, and how winning the National Book Award liberated his writing. Mott discusses the intricate balance of humor and grief in his stories, shaped by personal loss. He also reflects on America’s complicated identity, and why gun culture is a recurring theme in his work. Plus, he offers valuable advice for aspiring writers about persistence and authenticity.
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From Memoir To Metafiction

  • People Like Us began as a memoir but evolved into a metafictional novel using two recurring characters to explore belonging.
  • Jason Mott chose fiction to access different tools and conversations he couldn't achieve in memoir form.
INSIGHT

A Standalone Sequel

  • Mott calls People Like Us a "standalone sequel" that revisits characters from Hell of a Book about a decade later.
  • You can read it independently, but it deepens themes established in his previous novel.
ADVICE

Use Success To Loosen Pressure

  • After winning the National Book Award, Mott wrote with less pressure and more play, advising writers to savor achievements.
  • He suggests using success as permission to write the work you enjoy rather than chasing validation.
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