Truth 2x2 Cult Kids

2x2 Vocabulary: Forsake

Oct 24, 2025
Explore the complex use of the word 'forsake' within a religious context, shedding light on its implications for personal identity and autonomy. The conversation dives into the expectation to abandon self-interest and possessions, particularly focusing on its gendered impact, especially on women. Listeners are encouraged to share their experiences with the term and its lasting effects after leaving. Insightful discussions surround the broader implications of forsaking worldly influences and interests.
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INSIGHT

Forsake As A Core Expectation

  • The 2x2s regularly use the old-fashioned word 'forsake' to demand extreme self-denial and loyalty.
  • This expectation ties together giving up possessions, interests, and personal needs in service of the group and men in authority.
INSIGHT

Selflessness Framed As Moral Requirement

  • 'Forsake' is framed around selfishness versus selflessness, pressuring members to sacrifice their needs.
  • Women particularly experienced expectations to defer to men and prioritise others over themselves.
ANECDOTE

Women's Role: Defer And Forsake

  • Laura recounts that women were expected to forsake and defer decisions and needs to men in homes.
  • She says community, workers, elders, fathers, husbands and then children were placed before a woman's own needs.
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