Karen Gibson on her mother's experience of discrimination — and an apology which brought healing

This week’s podcast guest is Karen Gibson, the founder and director of the Kingdom Choir. She wrote for the Church Times last week about how her mother, a member of the Windrush generation, was asked not to return to a C of E church 50 years ago, but recently received an impassioned apology from its new vicar. Karen talks to Ed Thornton about her mother’s reaction to the apology and the conversations that still need to happen within the Church to combat racism, as well as how the members of her choir have leaned on each other during lockdown. “We are wired for connection and community. We are wired to reach out and touch somebody. To hold, to hug; that is what we are wired for.” Podcast edited by Serena Long Picture credit: PA Get the Church Times delivered for 10 weeks for just £10: www.churchtimes.co.uk/10-weeks