Second Time Founders

E80 The Death of Lean Startups? Why AI Makes Startups Harder, Not Easier 💡

Feb 5, 2025
The discussion kicks off with a lively reflection on the Super Bowl and strategies for boosting listener engagement. The hosts dive into cutting-edge AI tools like DeepSeek and the game-changing features from OpenAI that are reshaping productivity. They tackle the evolving startup landscape, stressing the need for unique advantages in a world far removed from the lean startup model. The conversation also addresses the pitfalls of traditional funding philosophies, advocating for authenticity and innovative engagement methods in the digital space.
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ANECDOTE

DeepSeek Experience

  • Kevin Gibbon experimented with DeepSeek, China's version of GPT.
  • He found it similar to other AI chatbots, with occasional timeout issues.
ADVICE

OpenAI Upgrade

  • Upgrade to OpenAI's $200/month plan for access to Operator and Deep Research.
  • These tools offer advanced features like task automation and in-depth research.
ANECDOTE

Operator Success and Failure

  • Operator successfully booked a Super Bowl weekend dinner reservation for Kevin, handling OpenTable and two-factor authentication.
  • However, it struggled with HubSpot and Canva, suggesting limited app compatibility.
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