1137: Jay Dobyns | Undercover with the Hells Angels Part Three

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Apr 8, 2025

Jay Dobyns, a former ATF agent, shares gripping tales from his undercover missions infiltrating the Hells Angels. He recounts the psychological strain of living a double life and the dangers he faced, including a chilling moment at the Mesa clubhouse. Jay discusses the frustrating legal outcomes after risking life and limb for justice and reflects on the unique challenges of undercover work, including moral dilemmas and the toll on mental health. Despite threats to his life, he emphasizes the importance of authenticity and empowerment in law enforcement.

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ADVICE

Start Small, Learn Big

Start small with undercover work, building experience gradually.
Learn from both successes and mistakes to improve your technique.

ANECDOTE

Double Infiltration

Dobyns infiltrated the Solo Angels in Tijuana to gain credibility with the Hells Angels in Arizona.
This "infiltration within an infiltration" was a key strategy.

ANECDOTE

Constant Scrutiny

Hells Angels prospects are constantly scrutinized on every aspect of their lives.
Dobyns avoided faking expertise in motorcycles, sticking to his cover story.

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By popular demand, former ATF agent Jay Dobyns returns to take us deeper into the logistics of infiltrating the Hells Angels and living to tell the tale! [Pt. 3 of 3 — find 1 here and 2 here!]

Full show notes and resources can be found here: jordanharbinger.com/1137

What We Discuss with Jay Dobyns:

ATF agent Jay Dobyns first infiltrated the Solo Angels gang in Tijuana simply to gain credibility with the Hells Angels in Arizona — an infiltration within an infiltration to establish presence in a culture notorious for extreme scrutiny.
The psychological toll of living a double life while undercover was severe. Taking handfuls of Hydroxycut to keep pace, Jay would cry himself to sleep from exhaustion and once signed a check with his undercover name, showing how blurred the lines became.
At the Mesa clubhouse, when his hand moved toward his concealed weapon, a Hells Angel asked, "Jaybird, let me ask you something. Can you outdraw my trigger squeeze?" — one of many moments where Jay's survival hung by a thread, with only his wits as a safety net.
Despite evidence gathered over two years, prosecutors reduced charges and sought plea deals with criminals in the Hells Angels organization rather than pursuing full prosecution — a profoundly frustrating outcome for Jay after years of risking his life to put these predators behind bars for good.
Despite having his home burned down and contract killers sent after him, Jay made a life-changing decision: "I live with concern. I choose not to live in fear because if I live in fear, they own me." This powerful mindset shows that even after facing extreme adversity, we all have the ability to reclaim our power by refusing to let fear dictate our choices.
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