Justin and Jason talk about the future of AI, its potential near-term impact on coding and technology, and a bet on whether AGI will be achieved within the next 5 years (mark your calendars, You People!!), the cost and benefits of serverless vs cloud vs bare metal, why Justin has decided to focus on PlayStrong over List, the potential market and why he plans to build rather than buy, the latest with Math Academy, some thoughts on product market fit and where growth really comes from, the shows The Recruit, Madoff, The Protector, and Extraordinary Attorney Wu, Musk, Twitter, and why Justin can no longer buy a Cybertruck, the bureaucratic bloat that encumbers big business and government, and finally how Jason's daughter doesn't give a [bleep] what you think.. Join our Discord, chat with us and fellow listeners! https://discord.gg/2EbBwdHHx8