Yanis Varoufakis, Former Greek Minister of Economics, discusses the decline and death of capitalism. He argues that Amazon and Alibaba are among the culprits. Topics include the rise of cloud capital, concerns about tech giants, the role of technology in society, taking action for a better society, and the divisive role of blockchain.
Capitalism has already ended and been replaced by technologically advanced Feudalism, with platforms like Amazon functioning as digital fiefdoms.
The concentration of power and wealth in the hands of a few cloud lords and the control of algorithms pose significant concerns, requiring the implementation of micro-payments and a transformation in corporate law to address the imbalance and promote freedom and justice.
Deep dives
The Transformation from Capitalism to Techno-Feudalism
The podcast episode features an interview with Jannus Verufakis, discussing his latest book, 'Techno-Feudalism: The End of Capitalism.' Verufakis argues that capitalism has already ended and has been replaced by a technologically advanced version of Feudalism. He highlights the shift from markets to platforms like Amazon, which he describes as a digital fiefdom. Verufakis introduces the concept of 'cloud capital,' referring to the power and wealth accumulated by the owners of platforms such as Google and Amazon. He emphasizes that this new form of capital controls and modifies human behavior. Verufakis expresses concerns about the concentration of power and wealth in the hands of a few cloud lords, influencing public opinion and entrenching inequality. He calls for ending free services and implementing micro-payments as a way to redirect the power dynamics.
The Influence of Algorithms and Cloud Capital
Verufakis discusses the significant role played by algorithms in the current socio-economic system. He highlights how algorithms control and manipulate people's behavior, guiding their choices and decision-making process. Verufakis argues that owning and controlling these algorithms is crucial, and currently, a few cloud lords possess this power. He emphasizes that this control goes beyond surveillance and personalization, as the algorithms have the power to influence public opinion and shape entire societies. Verufakis warns against the extent of power and influence held by the cloud lords, which goes beyond traditional monopolies, as their platforms function as non-market digital fiefdoms.
Reimagining Ownership and Corporate Structures
Verufakis proposes two solutions to tackle the challenges of cloud capital and platform dominance. Firstly, he suggests replacing free services with micro-payments, where users directly pay for the apps or services they use, reducing the influence and control of cloud lords. Secondly, Verufakis calls for a transformation in corporate law, envisioning a share structure where employees possess one non-tradable share each. This change would give employees voting power and a stake in the company's decision-making process, reducing the concentration of power in the hands of a few. Verufakis sees this as a revolution that combines freedom and justice, ending share and labor markets while promoting market-based cooperatives.
The Role of Technology and Hope for the Future
While Verufakis expresses concerns about the current trajectory of society, he maintains hope for a better future. He acknowledges technology's potential for positive impacts, such as AI designing antibiotics to combat superbugs. However, Verufakis stresses that technology alone cannot solve the problems created by the concentration of power and wealth. He argues for social and political interventions to address these issues, emphasizing the importance of considering who owns and controls technology and the need for a society that prioritizes freedom and justice.
It’s the most wonderful time of the year for retailers. With Christmas around the corner, shopping soars: groceries and drinks for dinners, toys, electronics for gifts, and clothes for events. It seems wild not to believe that capitalism is in perfect health...
However, former Greek Minister of Economics Yanis Varoufakis not only thinks it's in decline but claims it's already dead. Who killed it? Well, according to him, Amazon and Alibaba, among others.