Topics discussed include risks facing the US economy such as auto strikes, student loan payments resuming, and government shutdown. They explore the concept of a 'soft landing' and credit conditions. They discuss labor hoarding and inflation during recessions. Lastly, they delve into recession triggers and shocks, and mention Taylor Swift's contribution to the economy.
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Soft landing optimism tends to coincide with short-term improvements in manufacturing and housing markets, while longer-lasting sectors like credit markets and labor markets show signs of weakness, indicating a potential recession.
Recessions are typically caused by two main factors: rate hikes by the Federal Reserve and external shocks, especially those related to oil, and multiple small shocks occurring simultaneously can create non-linear dynamics leading to a recession.
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Soft landings preceding recessions
When looking at recession history, there is a pattern of optimistic expectations for a soft landing right before a recession hits. This pattern was observed in 1990, 2000, 2007, and 2019. Soft landing optimism tends to coincide with short-term improvements in manufacturing and housing markets, while longer-lasting sectors like credit markets and labor markets show signs of weakness. Current indicators suggest manufacturing is bottoming out, but credit conditions are expected to tighten in the coming months, potentially triggering a recession.
Credit conditions and household buoyancy
The current economic cycle exhibits unique characteristics due to the unprecedented amount of stimulus provided during the pandemic. Credit conditions, particularly the excess cash held by households, have helped buoy the economy, but it is expected to diminish as fiscal stimulus wanes and inflation-adjusted savings return to pre-pandemic levels. This shift in credit conditions, coupled with the traditional lag effect of the job market, could contribute to a recession despite a currently strong labor market.
Shocks and potential triggers
Recessions are typically caused by two main factors: rate hikes by the Federal Reserve and external shocks, especially those related to oil. Multiple small shocks, such as oil price fluctuations, student loan repayments, and strikes, could individually have limited impact. However, when these shocks occur simultaneously, they have the potential to create non-linear dynamics that lead to a recession. For example, a United Auto Workers strike could potentially affect 130,000 jobs, causing a sudden jump in the unemployment rate and triggering broader economic consequences.
Bloomberg Economics Chief US Economist Anna Wong discusses why a US recession is still more likely than a soft landing. Hosts: Carol Massar and Tim Stenovec. Producer: Paul Brennan.