The MacArthur Center Podcast Episode 2: "The Bait They Would Like"
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Jun 23, 2021 
Join John MacArthur, a renowned pastor known for his expository preaching, as he explores the contrasting philosophies of ministry with Robert Schuller. Discover the tumultuous flight that underscored their different visions for the church, leading to lasting impacts on their congregations. MacArthur shares anecdotes from his time at Grace Church, emphasizing spiritual commitment over numbers. The podcast highlights the dangers of a positivity-driven approach versus a scripture-focused one, raising questions about the integrity of preaching and the true essence of church growth.
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Plane Encounter Exemplifies Contrast
- John MacArthur shared a surprising 1979 plane encounter with Robert Schuller who had opposing views on Scripture.
- Schuller's book openly assaulted biblical inerrancy, contrasting MacArthur's firm belief in it.
Generations Under One Ministry
- Rich Heresick and Rick Dempsey represent generations within Grace Community Church, showing long-term impact.
- Rick's family spans four generations under MacArthur's pulpit, highlighting ministry stability.
Church Design Reflects Ministry Vision
- Shuler’s Crystal Cathedral was flashy and distraction-filled, while MacArthur’s Grace Church focused on Bible-centered auditorium design.
- This physical contrast reflects their ministry priorities: meeting non-believers’ tastes versus God’s Word proclamation.
