John MacArthur and Robert Schuller both lived in Southern California. Both were pastors. And both were on a bizarre flight from Chicago to Los Angeles in 1979. Even as their lives often intersected, they had opposite priorities and contrasting visions of why the church exists and who it is for. This episode traces those two approaches, from that infamous flight of 1979 through the summer of 2011. Today, one is a cautionary tale for expositors. The other is a model worth following.