
The Crow's Nest with Ian MacKenzie
Session | The Fall and the Underworld with Dr. Martin Shaw
May 25, 2022
01:26:01
In myth, the Underworld is a place of testing and initiation, but hopefully not a final destination. Within many stories the descent is the second element of a three-stage process, leading to a final grounding that is both redemptive and a gift to others.
Martin Shaw is suggesting in the West we have often made the Underworld so comfortable, so subtle, and in some cases so chronic, we’ve become a two-stage, not three-stage culture. Without quite knowing it, the Underworld has become home.
In this state we experience the liminoid not the liminal, the rupture but not the rapture. Nothing grows, except cynicism. Come and join Martin as he speaks old-world stories and ideas into the malaise of our times.
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