Our Mindful Nature: Meditation Inspired by Nature to Soothe the Overwhelmed Mind and Ease Anxiety Why Mindfulness Isn’t Enough—And How To Truly Transform Anxiety Through Advanced Meditation With Andrew Holecek
More often than I can count, I have conversations with students asking me what’s next in their meditation practice, how to go deeper, or how to feel better in the toughest of times… and today, I am delighted to share a powerful conversation offering a few answers to these tough questions.
Andrew Holecek is a returning guest to the podcast, as well as a renowned author and humanitarian who teaches internationally on spirituality, meditation, lucid dreaming, and the art of dying. His many books include Reverse Meditation and Dream Yoga. And now, he has a new book out -
I’m Mindful, Now What? Moving Beyond Mindfulness to Meet the Modern World.
This book, and our discussion today, reveals how the form of mindfulness many of us know is merely one thread in a much older, greater tapestry of contemplative practice. For anyone who has sensed the potential for something much deeper and more profound - this conversation is for YOU.
Andrew and I talk about:
- Brining meditation off the cushion and into our day-to-day experiences
- Practices that move beyond simply “calming down”
- The near enemies of practice, which include spiritual bypassing, spiritual materialism and the tricky distinction between tranquility and liberation.
- Waking up vs. growing up
- Five nocturnal meditation practices, the value of the dream state, and the magic of liminality.
- Lastly and most importantly, we talk about why these practices matter when the world is on fire.
At the end, Andrew shares a guided meditation that he does every morning to start off his day. Join me for this inspiring conversation and practice. And listeners, I need to know - should I have Andrew come back to tell us more about these dream practices?!?
There is so much richness in this practice, here is a breakout of some of the key moments:
01:32 The Five-Year Retreat Experience
04:42 Beyond Mindfulness: Deeper Practices
06:54 Shamatha and Vipashyana Explained
12:18 The Importance of Waking Down
15:48 Therapeutic and Somatic Support
18:32 Traps on the Meditative Path
24:16 Waking Up vs. Growing Up
26:48 Nocturnal Meditations
27:16 The Importance of Dreams
27:34 Polyphasic vs. Monophasic Cultures
28:16 Ego and Altered States of Consciousness
29:06 The Three-Dimensional View of Reality
31:00 The Five Nocturnal Practices
32:51 Exploring Liminal Dreaming
34:14 The Science Behind Liminal Dreaming
35:23 Observational Intent and Thought Image Amalgamation
36:37 Deconstructing the Sense of Self
42:56 The Collective Mind and Quantum Entanglement
48:44 Guided Meditation Practice
Learn more about Andrew Holecek and find his new book here: https://www.andrewholecek.com/
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This podcast explores meditation, mental health and the power of connection, offering guidance for caregivers, healers, and therapists facing compassion fatigue, burnout, and other mental health struggles through self-care, self-compassion, and resilience. With a focus on anxiety, depression, and overwhelm, each episode provides tools like meditation, mindfulness, breathwork, and grounding to cultivate clarity and reduce stress. Listeners can also experience nature-inspired guided meditations, designed to bring peace and balance in times of distress.