Coffee and a Mike Paul Craig Roberts and Gary Heavin #1241
Oct 28, 2025
In this discussion, Paul Craig Roberts, former assistant secretary of the Treasury and a notable commentator on geopolitics, teams up with Gary Heavin, founder of Curves International and a social entrepreneur. They dive into the risky dynamics of U.S.-Russia relations, emphasizing NATO's existential threat to Russia. The conversation also touches on China's economic leverage and declining relationships due to U.S. sanctions. Additionally, Heavin warns about social unrest as 42 million face SNAP benefit cuts, highlighting the potential fallout from domestic crises.
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Russia Sees NATO As The Root Cause
- Russia views the core issue as NATO threat and mutual security, not just Ukraine's territory.
- Ignoring this prevents any lasting peace and escalates the conflict toward greater danger.
War Profits Lock In Continuation
- Western arms sales and frozen Russian assets financially incentivize prolonging the war.
- Political and industrial lobbies profit massively and block negotiations that could end the conflict.
China Holds Industrial Leverage
- China controls critical rare earths and high-tech production, giving it leverage over U.S. industry.
- Severing ties would halt American manufacturing and could convert foreign-made brands into Chinese-controlled assets.