Norma Kamali started her career when women were expected to type memos in Mad Men-esque offices, not build their own empires. She came of age in 1960s New York City and since then, Norma's become one of the most influential names in fashion. Norma is responsible for iconic looks like Farrah Fawcett’s red swimsuit, the sleeping bag coat, and some of the earliest activewear, before “athleisure” was ever a thing. At 80-years-old, she’s showing no signs of stopping.

In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Norma also shares:

How a $29 flight and a basement boutique kicked off her career
What it took to walk away from a toxic business – and marriage
Why she took her brand to Walmart, even when people told her not to
How learning to ask for help changed her life
Why AI gives her a bigger creative high than anything else

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Bonus Episode: "Body and Breath" Meditation