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What if walking away from your polished product career was the exact move you needed to grow?

In this episode of Supra Insider, Marc and Ben sit down with Jori Bell to explore her unconventional journey from PM roles at Spotify, SoundCloud, and Audible to building a coaching practice, curating intimate community spaces, and teaching at Cornell Tech. After two years of self-exploration and reinvention, Jori is now bringing her rediscovered superpowers—curiosity, empathy, and intuition—into her new role at Hampton, helping founders and CEOs cultivate meaningful peer connections.

This conversation is a must-listen for anyone considering a career pivot, rethinking their relationship with work, or exploring how product skills can show up in unexpected, high-impact ways.

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In this episode, we covered the following topics:

* (02:22) How joining a small startup differed from onboarding at big tech companies

* (04:56) The balance between jumping in to help and taking time to observe when onboarding

* (07:21) Using curiosity and context-switching as superpowers in early-stage environments

* (08:28) How Jori reverse-interviewed Hampton before joining—and what she looked for in the team

* (15:39) Why real connection happens in small groups—and the limits of scaling community

* (23:08) The art of matching people based on chemistry and shared emotional journeys

* (30:15) Letting go of a product title to rediscover what truly energizes and aligns with your values

* (35:42) Jori’s 4 core values for designing work: movement, elements, creativity, in-person connection

* (44:28) Why hiring for “done it before” can backfire—and why curiosity and adaptability win

* (51:32) Jori’s playbook for thorough interview due diligence—and the red flags to watch for

* (59:09) Designing a career around gut instinct, not job titles—and trusting new opportunities to emerge

* And more!

Links:

* Jori Bell: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jori-bell/

* Product Therapy by Jori Bell: https://joribell.substack.com

* Hampton: https://joinhampton.com/

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* Marc: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcbaselga/

* Ben: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benerez/

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