Rupert Spira Podcast Episode 77: Federico Faggin
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May 27, 2025 
Federico Faggin, the inventor of the microprocessor, shares his journey from a materialist view to a profound understanding of consciousness. He discusses how the true science lies in exploring consciousness, challenging the divide between spirituality and science. Simon Mundie moderates the conversation, diving into topics like the illusion of free will, the nature of reality, and how AI cannot replicate genuine consciousness. Together, they advocate for a shift in perspective towards interconnectedness and the role of love in human experience.
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Bridging Science and Spirituality
- The divide between science and spirituality is artificial because ultimate science is the science of consciousness.
- Consciousness is fundamental, transcending body and mind, integrating science with spirituality.
Faggin's Consciousness Breakthrough
- Federico Faggin transitioned from materialism after experiencing that consciousness existed beyond the body.
- His attempt to create a conscious computer failed, revealing consciousness can't be reduced to physical brain activity.
Awareness Knows Itself
- Self-knowledge is awareness knowing itself, which everyone experiences though often unrecognized.
- True awareness is infinite and peaceful when attention is fully directed inward, beyond thoughts and perceptions.