Sed Contra: A Podcast of Catholic Theology

Quodlibet 11: So What's Taylor and Urban's Big Disagreement on Original Sin?

Jun 16, 2025
Engaging personalities collide as hosts tackle questions from St. Thomas Aquinas to pop music. A lively debate on original sin unfolds, exploring the complexities of human nature and morality. They delve into the art of translation in Catholic literature, contrasting hymnody styles. The conversation meanders through theological reflections on music's emotional impact, highlighting Aquinas’ thoughts. Ultimately, the speakers stress the importance of constructive disagreements in understanding faith and invite listener questions.
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Original Sin as Loss of Original Justice

  • Urban Hannon argues original sin deprives us of original justice, creating a state akin to pure nature.
  • He distinguishes the formal guilt from Adam and the material disorder of concupiscence causing this loss.
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Nature's Integrity as Preternatural Gift

  • Taylor Patrick O'Neill sees original justice as a preternatural gift safeguarding nature's integrity.
  • He explains that nature has proper ordering, but that order is fragile and can be lost without supernatural support.
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Concupiscence Corrupts Nature Like Death

  • Urban Hannon reads St. Thomas that concupiscence corrupts nature running counter to reason's order.
  • He compares this to natural death, both requiring supernatural power to be reversed.
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