In this episode of Thinking Out Loud, Nathan and Cameron react to Jordan Peterson’s appearance in the viral Jubilee debate—and things get theologically intense. They unpack where Peterson’s thinking aligns with Christian truth and where it dangerously veers off course. From disordered loves and worship to the meaning of belief, Nathan and Cameron bring biblical clarity and philosophical depth to the table. Along the way, they reference thinkers like Augustine, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, T.S. Eliot, David Foster Wallace, and Tom Holland, making this a must-listen for Christians who care about faith, reason, and the big questions of culture.

Topics Covered:

Is Jordan Peterson a Christian—or just Christian-adjacent?
What is worship, really? Augustine vs. Peterson
Disordered loves and cultural idolatry
Why “aim upward” isn’t the gospel
Peterson’s definition of belief—where it fails
Are atheists borrowing Christian morality? (feat. Tom Holland)
David Foster Wallace, Paul Tillich, and the quest for meaning
Why science can’t give you morality

Did empathy replace conscience? A naturalist critique

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