
 Destiny Debates and Discussions
 Destiny Debates and Discussions Case - How can We Survive This?
 Oct 21, 2025 
 Dive into a discussion on the implications of Manafort's undisclosed payments and ties to Russian oligarchs. Explore the differences in legal treatment of figures like Flynn and Stone, alongside an analysis of the Trump Tower meeting and obstruction patterns. The conversation also touches on corruption in politics, with comparisons between Hunter Biden and the Trump family. Speculations on civil unrest and political stability lead to a debate about the presidential pardon power's limits. Don't miss their amusing take on current TV series! 
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Interest In Israel-Palestine Reporting
- Destiny prefers the first Pragmatic Papers piece because it covers Israel-Palestine, his favorite topic.
- Case admits he mostly follows subreddit posts and general news rather than deep dives on the conflict.
Black Caviar As A Corruption Symbol
- Case recounts Manafort receiving a jar of black caviar as emblematic of corruption tied to Yanukovych.
- He links that gift to Manafort's broader undisclosed payments and influence-peddling revealed in the Mueller report.
Manafort's Deep Russian Entanglements
- Case outlines Manafort's massive undisclosed payments and ties to Russian oligarchs and intelligence-linked associates.
- Destiny and Case see these connections as blatant corruption that was effectively pardoned later.


