

Why protests are getting more dangerous
Oct 13, 2025
Journalist and author Ariel Bogle sheds light on the rising use of force by police at protests, citing alarming incidents like photojournalist Alex Zucco's experience with capsicum spray. Bogle explains the mechanics of less-lethal weapons, including OC spray and rubber bullets, and discusses their origins from arms manufacturers. She highlights how recent legal changes have granted police broader powers, fostering a culture of aggression. The conversation also addresses the psychological impacts on protesters and challenges victims face in seeking justice.
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Journalists Injured While Working
- Photographer Alex Zucco was hit directly in the face with capsicum spray and went blind for about an hour.
- Another photographer was struck in the ear by a rubber bullet and required medical attention.
Less-Lethal Tools Can Be Seriously Harmful
- OC spray now often arrives as a sticky foam that is hard to remove and causes intense eye pain described as like being stabbed in the eye.
- Projectiles like baton rounds can cause lasting pain, brain damage or death depending on use, so
Arms Industry Supplies Less-Lethal Gear
- Many less-lethal tools are supplied by large arms manufacturers who also make lethal weapons, creating a blurred supply chain.
- Flashbangs are effectively small explosives that can provoke panic, stampedes and further injuries if used in crowds.