adrienne gets witchy with Makani Themba who was previously on the show (6/24/21) with her brother, Robin D.G. Kelly.

adrienne and Makani discuss incanting power, the way our voices vibrate when we’re chanting, when we make ourselves on body, re-membering, Betty Shabazz, patriarchal organizing, love as the ultimate witchy force, Sonia Sanchez, the power of the medicine we’re given, using music to shape ourselves, collective playlists, Egyptian astrology, the end of the patriarchal epic, how we bend the arc of justice and understanding abundance.Makani Themba is Chief Strategist at Higher Ground Change Strategies based in Jackson, Mississippi. A social justice innovator and pioneer in the field of change communications and narrative strategy, she has spent more than 20 years supporting organizations, coalitions and philanthropic institutions in developing high impact change initiatives. Higher Ground Change Strategies provides her the opportunity to bring her strong sense of history, social justice and organizing knowledge, and deft movement facilitation skills in support of change makers seeking to take their work to the next level. Higher Ground helps partners integrate authentic engagement, systems analysis, change communications and more for powerful, vision-based change.

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Music by Tunde Olaniran, Mother Cyborg and The Bengsons

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