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The Realignment

509 | H.W. Brands: America First - Roosevelt vs. Lindbergh and the Long Shadow of WWII

Oct 1, 2024
Historian H.W. Brands dives deep into the historical tug-of-war between interventionism and isolationism in American politics. He draws parallels between FDR's and Charles Lindbergh's clashing views on WWII and today's debates over Taiwan and Ukraine. Brands explores the roots of the 'America First' movement and discusses Lindbergh's complex legacy, revealing lessons on humility in politics. The conversation evolves into how historical narratives shape current foreign policy, warning against oversimplifying the past in today's context.
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  • The origins of 'America First' reveal a historical disillusionment with foreign entanglements stemming from World War I and its aftermath.
  • Charles Lindbergh's isolationist perspective emphasized American security through continental defense, rejecting involvement in European conflicts as non-essential.

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The America First Debate in Historical Context

The term 'America First' primarily evokes modern political sentiments, yet its origins lie in the pre-war debates around American involvement in World War II. In the 1930s, many Americans favored isolationism due to disillusionment from their previous commitment to World War I, which they believed did not secure democracy as President Wilson had promised. This skepticism towards foreign entanglements led Congress to pass neutrality laws to restrict presidential power in wartime decisions, reflecting a desire to maintain national focus on domestic issues amid the Great Depression. However, as threats from Adolf Hitler emerged, the public gradually shifted towards recognizing the need to confront foreign aggressions, leading to a complex discussion where the motivations behind intervention were debated intensely.

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