

Best of the Program | Guests: Marcus Lemonis & Jack Hibbs | 8/21/25
Aug 21, 2025
Marcus Lemonis, the Executive Chairman of Bed Bath & Beyond, shares why he chose not to open stores in California and reflects on his changing views about Trump. He discusses potential overregulation that risks capitalism's revival. Jack Hibbs, senior pastor of Calvary Chapel Chino Hills, expresses concern over California's AB 495 bill, urging parents to consider relocating for their children's safety. The conversation also touches on Target's CEO stepping down amid profit losses, raising questions about their corporate direction.
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Business Reasons For Exiting California
- Marcus Lemonis frames Bed Bath & Beyond's California exit as a business decision driven by cost and regulation, not politics.
- He says he welcomed dialogue with Governor Newsom to find compromises that would restore investment in the state.
Evolving Political Views From Business Outcomes
- Lemonis says his political view of Trump evolved after seeing deregulation and pro-business moves that help American companies.
- He argues pragmatic policy that encourages investment matters more than partisan identity.
Flag Disputes At Camping World
- Lemonis recounts battles defending flag displays in his Camping World business against local authorities who objected to large flags.
- He uses the story to illustrate overreach by local rules and his pragmatic resistance to those constraints.