Where There's Woke

WTW42: Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, and Tom MacDonald All Walk Into a Grift...

Feb 29, 2024

Delving into the cult of Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, and Tom MacDonald, the hosts explore the appeal and controversies surrounding these figures. Analyzing the ironic rap song collaboration between Shapiro and MacDonald, they dissect the messaging and marketing strategies used. From philosophical musings on life definitions to debunked music myths and racial connotations in classical music discourse, the podcast offers a mix of entertainment and insightful critiques.

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Tom MacDonald's music displays a contrast between right-wing themes and societal critiques, showcasing versatility in his artistic messaging.

Ben Shapiro's collaboration with Tom MacDonald challenges his conservative image and reveals his contradictory views on rap music.

Jordan Peterson's analysis of Ben Shapiro and Tom MacDonald's rap project illuminates the humor and unexpected dimensions of their musical endeavor.

Deep dives

Tom McDonald's Contrasting Music Styles

Tom McDonald's music content spans from right-wing narratives in songs like 'White Boy' and 'Straight White Male' to more emotionally impactful themes in 'Bad News'. The dramatic shift in his song 'People So Stupid', criticizing various societal issues, reveals a dichotomy in his music style and messaging.

Introduction

2min

Unpacking the Cult of Genius: Jordan Peterson's Appeal

9min

Unpacking the Irony in Tom MacDonald and Ben Shapiro's Rap Song

20min

Philosophical Musings and Absurd Arguments on Life Definitions

2min

Reflections on Ben Shapiro and Rap Music

7min

Exploring a Debunked Music Myth and Racial Connotations in Classical Music Discourse

3min

Navigating Professional Standards and Controversial Views

20min

Analyzing Inaccuracies in a Discussed Study

2min

Part 1!

After *Rap Icon* Ben Shapiro made his simultaneous debut and retirement in Tom MacDonald's "Facts" last month, Jordan Peterson realized what the public needed was an incredibly overwrought and bull shitty analysis of these very simple lyrics. Before we get to that, though, we take a look at the characters. Who is Tom MacDonald and how much does he suck? Could he have ever just been a normal musician? We all know Ben Shapiro, but do you know about his claimed musicianship? That's the subject of a BONUS, look for that later. And finally, Jordan Peterson himself. Is he still a clinical psychologist? Is any amount of authoritarian tolerance enough for him to be beautiful? And more!

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Where There's Woke

WTW42: Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, and Tom MacDonald All Walk Into a Grift...

Episode guests

Podcast summary created with Snipd AI

Quick takeaways

Deep dives

Tom McDonald's Contrasting Music Styles

Ben Shapiro's Rap Commentary

Jordan Peterson's Analytical Approach

Critique of Ben Shapiro and Classical Music

Jordan Peterson's Professional Conduct

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