From the World Economic Forum in Davos: Interviews with Saudi and Iranian Foreign Ministers; Ukrainian soldiers explain why they fight on; Jane Goodall's message to the world
Jan 21, 2024
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Fareed Zakaria interviews the Saudi and Iranian Foreign Ministers at the World Economic Forum in Davos. They discuss the conflict in the Middle East, de-escalation, and normalization of relations with Israel. Ukrainian soldiers share why their fight is crucial. Jane Goodall speaks about her experience with chimpanzees and her fight to protect the natural world.
Jane Goodall's observations challenged the sharp line between humans and animals, demonstrating that chimpanzees exhibit both love and violence.
The Foreign Minister of Saudi Arabia called for de-escalation in Gaza and emphasized the need for a political resolution to achieve a Palestinian state.
Deep dives
Lesson from Living with Chimpanzees
Jane Goodall learned that chimpanzees are remarkably similar to humans in their behaviors, emotions, and social relationships. They can show love, compassion, and altruism, but also exhibit violence and primitive war. Goodall's observations challenged the notion that humans are fundamentally different from other animals and helped break down the sharp line between humans and animals.
Foreign Minister of Saudi Arabia on Middle East Tensions
The Foreign Minister of Saudi Arabia expressed concern about the escalating tensions in the region, particularly in Gaza and Lebanon. He called for de-escalation and emphasized the need to halt the conflict in Gaza as a crucial step towards stabilizing the entire region. He also discussed the importance of finding a solution for the Palestinian issue and expressed hope for a political resolution that includes a pathway to a Palestinian state.
Ukraine's Bravery Amid Russian Aggression
Two Ukrainian soldiers shared their experiences and motivations for fighting against Russian aggression. They emphasized the importance of defending their country, protecting their families, and fighting for freedom. The soldiers highlighted the need for support in areas such as air defense and the unfreezing of Russian assets to aid in the recovery and reconstruction of Ukraine.
Jane Goodall's Message of Conservation and Hope
Jane Goodall, renowned primatologist and conservationist, discussed the urgent need to protect the natural world from human activities. She emphasized the importance of reconnecting with nature and understanding our economic system's impact on the environment. Goodall called for a reconceptualization of our relationship with nature and urged people to vote for leaders who prioritize climate change mitigation and the future of our planet.
This week Fareed hosts the show from Davos, Switzerland, the site of the World Economic Forum’s annual meeting.
Saudi Foreign Minister Faisal bin Farhan al Saud joins Fareed to discuss the Houthi attacks in the Red Sea, how to de-escalate the conflict in the Middle East and what it would take for Saudi Arabia to normalize relations with Israel.
Next, Fareed interviews Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian on stage at Davos to ask whether Iran is trying to expand the Middle East conflict beyond Israel and Gaza.
Fareed talks to the Ukrainian foreign minister about what his country’s most urgent needs are. Then, Fareed hears from two Ukrainian soldiers on why this war is so critical - for Ukraine and the world.
Finally, Fareed speaks to Jane Goodall, the renowned primatologist and conservationist, about the lessons she learned from living with chimpanzees and her on-going fight to protect the natural world.