Making the Argument with Nick Freitas What should the Right Want w/ Dr Steve Turley
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Nov 11, 2025 
Dr. Steve Turley, a commentator and civilizationalist author, dives into the current political transformation and discusses what the Right should strive for. He explores the concept of civilizationalism, detailing how cultures shape political orders. The conversation touches on the existential threat of wokeness to American identity and the backlash it has caused within political factions. Turley advocates for a return to faith, virtue, and civic education as essential steps for building a resilient society.
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Politics As Civilizational Expression
- Steve Turley defines 'civilizationalism' as seeing politics shaped by broad civilizational cultures rather than abstract ideologies.
- He argues demographics and cultural identity, not ideology, will largely determine future political outcomes.
Identity Replaced Ideology
- Turley contrasts Fukuyama's ideological end-of-history with Huntington's return to identity and civilization as primary drivers.
- He says identity politics replaces grand ideology and will shape multipolar global alignments.
A Fourth‑Grade Teacher's Lasting Influence
- Turley recounts his fourth-grade teacher, Miss Coates, who taught a traditional American curriculum.
- He credits that early patriotic education with shaping his appreciation for American civilization.
