Fi's made a start on some Christmas shopping. Jane is still experiencing issues with her dish, but she's recently found some comfort in the fact she's not the only one... There's also chat about green face cream, emerging sprouts and lesser musical evils.

Plus, General David Petraeus, former director of the CIA, discusses global security, amongst many other things...

Get your suggestions in for the next book club pick!

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Emerging sprouts (with General David Patraeus)