
We're Not So Different Patreon Ep Unlocked: We're Very Very Different: Irony
Jan 2, 2026
01:20:35
we're unlocking this bonus episode because it's the week of New Year, it was originally published in early 2024. if you like it, why not subscribe at patreon.com/wnsdpod. in this episode, we actually talk about a way in which we're very very fucking different from the people of the past, not just those in the Middle Ages, but even our own parents and grandparents: Irony. obviously, dramatic and rhetorical irony have been around since storytelling began but a fully-involved ironic outlook on life is very recent, coming about around the 1800s and irony as a totalizing ethos that permeates all levels of culture and society is so new that it probably didn't start until 1965, at least according to Umberto Eco, and has only gotten more mainstream since then. we want to explore Eco's ideas on enjoyment, postmodernism, irony, and post-irony and look at a way in which we're so different from our forebears that we may as well inhabit two different worlds. so we talk about Eco's story of when irony entered the mainstream in 1965 and then explore what that means for us today and why it might explain both the great generational divide between people born before and after 1978 as well as the reasons our parents wouldn't let us watch the Simpsons. enjoy!
