Alas Vine & Hitchens Our Submarine Fleet is Sunk and what to call Camilla
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Sep 17, 2025 Peter and Sarah dive into the complexities of calling Camilla 'the Queen', blending personal anecdotes with public sentiment. They lament the struggles of Britain's submarine fleet, exploring the heavy costs and controversial US missile leases. Listener dreams take a humorous turn as Peter reveals his car, while they tackle broader topics including traffic light frustrations and a critique of psychiatric practices. Their insightful discussions touch on current affairs, thrumming with wit and engaging commentary.
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Title Is Rooted In Law And Tradition
- Peter Hitchens refuses to call Camilla ‘the Queen’ because he feels the title belongs to the previous monarch and rests on ancient law.
- He views the media campaign to normalize her title as provocative and undermining tradition.
Personal Happiness Versus Institutional Law
- Sarah Vine explains Charles likely pushed for Camilla's title to secure her future respect and legitimacy.
- Peter counters that keeping law and tradition coherent matters more than private happiness when upholding the monarchy.
A Dinner At Clarence House
- Sarah recounts a supper at Clarence House with Charles and Camilla and praises the house's vintage wallpaper and lived-in charm.
- She describes Clarence House as cosy, chintzy and retaining the ghost of the Queen Mother.
