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THE OFFICIAL MEA CULPA WITH MICHAEL COHEN ARCHIVE

Trump Deposition Theater + A Conversation with Lev Parnas

Sep 4, 2023
Lev Parnas, a Soviet-born businessman involved in pressuring Ukraine to investigate Trump's political rivals, speaks out. Topics discussed include Trump's deposition, Rudy Giuliani's accountability and financial troubles, loyalty between Parnas and Giuliani, potential legal consequences for the former president, and the impact of Trump's actions and ongoing investigations.
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Lev Parnas

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Quick takeaways

  • Rudy Giuliani's loyalty to Trump is questionable, as he prioritizes his own interests over cooperation and facing legal consequences.
  • Trump uses manipulative communication tactics to indirectly convey orders and maintain plausible deniability.

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Rudy Giuliani's loyalty and potential to flip

Rudy Giuliani's loyalty to Donald Trump is highly questionable, as both individuals prioritize their own interests. While other co-defendants in the Georgia case may be inclined to offer cooperation to receive leniency, it is unlikely that Giuliani will do the same. Despite facing substantial jail time and financial difficulties, Giuliani's narcissistic nature and belief in his own invincibility may prevent him from turning on Trump. He still retains some hope of receiving a pardon or winning the case, and his continued support for Trump is fueled by a desire to maintain his dwindling support base. Ultimately, it remains to be seen how loyalty and self-preservation will guide Giuliani's actions.

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