

'Real Time' Crowd Goes Quiet as Bill Maher & Ben Shapiro Have a Tense Exchange About Charlie Kirk
11 snips Sep 15, 2025
Tensions rise as Ben Shapiro and Bill Maher clash over the implications of a tragic shooting linked to ideological beliefs. The discussion turns to the complexities surrounding gender identity, revealing a suspect's connections to a transgender partner. Meanwhile, a resurfaced clip highlights controversies involving prominent figures and their rhetoric, catalyzing a debate on the dangers of extreme political language. The conversation emphasizes the need for civility and the implications of violent discourse in today's society.
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Rhetoric Can Seed Real-World Violence
- Repeatedly labeling opponents as Hitler/Nazis normalizes extreme responses and can seed violence.
- Ben Shapiro and Dave Rubin argue rhetoric shapes the conditions that enable attacks.
Grievance Narratives Enable Violence
- Ben Shapiro links violent justification to a shared grievance-driven philosophy across movements.
- He says cognitive-behavioral political therapy is needed to break the idea that systems justify violence.
How The Suspect Was Identified
- Dave Rubin recounts how authorities identified and captured suspect Tyler Robinson and confirmed a transgender partner.
- He uses this to show Ben Shapiro's earlier point about the shooter's leftist ties was accurate.