Jessica Anthony's Enter the Aardvark and Deb Olin Unferth's Barn 8 both engage with the ethics of contemporary political and cultural realities. In tonight's virtual conversation the two novelists (and longtime friends) get a chance to compare and contrast Anthony's novel of Washington corruption, deception, and absurdity, and Unferth's novel of industrial farming and the complexity of activism. (Recorded April 27, 2020)