BackTable Vascular & Interventional Ep. 539 The Future of the IR-DR Relationship with Dr. Saher Sabri and Dr. Mark Lessne
May 2, 2025
Dr. Saher Sabri, Chief of Interventional Radiology at MedStar Health and future president of the Society of Interventional Radiology, joins Dr. Mark Lessne, an interventional radiologist at Charlotte Radiology. Together, they delve into the evolving relationship between interventional and diagnostic radiology. They discuss the challenges and financial pressures facing interventional specialists while highlighting the need for clearer definitions of their roles. The conversation suggests an impending separation between the two fields, raising critical questions about future identities and sustainability.
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IR-DR Relationship Evolution
- IR and DR are currently combined mainly due to existing certification structures.
- The relationship is evolving and eventual separation of IR from DR is expected but timing is uncertain.
Mark's IR Practice Within DR Group
- Mark Lessne practices mostly IR but still covers diagnostic shifts occasionally.
- His practice has a distinct IR identity despite being within a larger DR group.
Defining True IR Identity
- True IR identity involves full clinical practice with outpatient clinics and longitudinal patient care.
- SIR aims to support IR members committed to this model to advance the specialty.