Have you ever had one of those moments when it feels like everyone that experienced it just lived for a split second in another realm? We have. While recording this episode.

This conversation on #BlacknessandHistory between host, Lisa Sharon Harper, and Civil Rights Movement veteran, Ruby Nell Sales (SNCC organizer, celebrated theologian and founder of The SpiritHouse Project), hits new levels of deep within the first few minutes—and they keep drilling down.

More than an interview, this is a transcendent exchange—between an elder and a generation. Listen in as Sales and Harper go in on: Southern Black excellence, intersectional identities, respectability politics, the white imagination of blackness, internalized white patriarchy, beloved community, reparations and humility.

Do not miss this.

For your convenience and because it is that important, we’ve transcribed this episode to help you follow along and take notes. We’ve also provided links to certain terms and names to help you milk this convo for all it’s worth.

Finally, this moment was so special that Harper and Sales kept going for 20 mins after the episode wrapped. We got it on tape! Watch for that bonus episode later this month!

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