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Making Sense with Sam Harris

#403 — Sanity Check on Trump 2.0

Mar 10, 2025
Jonah Goldberg, a conservative journalist known for his sharp political insights, engages in a critical discussion about Trump and his influence on American politics. They dissect the recklessness of Trump's policies, including tariffs and foreign relations with Ukraine. Goldberg raises alarms about the political loyalty and moral implications of Trump’s supporters. They also explore the ominous influence of fringe thinkers on mainstream politics and the alarming dynamics that could shape a potential Trump 2.0.
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  • The podcast highlights the troubling shift in the Republican voter base, where policy preferences often overshadow serious concerns about Trump's authoritarianism.
  • It emphasizes the risks of Trump's transactional foreign policy approach, which threatens traditional diplomatic relations and undermines America's global leadership role.

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Reflections on Trump's First Term

The realities of Trump's first term are examined, highlighting how his administration's success was constrained by moderating influences from traditional Republicans. Many supporters nostalgically viewed the period as one characterized mostly by 'mean tweets' but a favorable economy. However, it is argued that the consequences of Trump's leadership were much more serious than this view acknowledges, with significant concerns over his actions and decisions going unchecked. This dynamic has contributed to the current environment, wherein Trump's loyalists are less likely to provide the necessary checks and balances to his potential overreach.

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