We don't know what we don't know. And when it comes to relationships, approaching others from the perspective of not knowing can often make those relationships stronger. Dr. Claudia Gold, a pediatrician and writer with over 20 years experience in the field, joins us to talk about humility, listening, "rupture and repair", and a ‘willingness to be surprised’ can help support not just early relational health, but relationships throughout the lifespan.