This week, host June Thomas talks to Eliot Laurence, creator of the witchy supernatural series Motherland: Fort Salem. In the interview, Eliot discusses Motherland’s unique premise, its queer characters, and his decision to include tons of storylines and plot details.

After the interview, June and co-host Karen Han discuss supernatural premises, the “kill your gays” trope, and being an introverted boss.

In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, June asks Eliot about a specific piece of magic in Motherland.

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Eliot Laurence on His “Maximalist” TV Series Motherland: Fort Salem