
The Shifting Privacy Left Podcast
S3E5: 'Nonconformist Innovation in Modern Digital Identity' with Steve Tout (Integrated Solutions Group)
In this week's episode, I am joined by Steve Tout, Practice Lead at Integrated Solutions Group (ISG) and Host of The Nonconformist Innovation Podcast to discuss the intersection of privacy and identity. Steve has 18+ years of experience in global Identity & Access Management (IAM) and is currently completing his MBA from Santa Clara University. Throughout our conversation, Steve shares his journey as a reformed technologist and advocate for 'Nonconformist Innovation' & 'Tipping Point Leadership.'
Steve's approach to identity involves breaking it down into 4 components: 1) philosophy, 2) politics, 3) economics & 4)technology, highlighting their interconnectedness. We also discuss his work with Washington State and its efforts to modernize Consumer Identity Access Management (IAM). We address concerns around AI, biometrics & mobile driver's licenses. Plus, Steve offers his perspective on tipping point leadership and the challenges organizations face in achieving privacy change at scale.
Topics Covered:
- Steve's origin story; his accidental entry into identity & access management (IAM)
- Steve's perspective as a 'Nonconformist Innovator' and why he launched 'The Nonconformist Innovation Podcast'
- The intersection of privacy & identity
- How to address organizational resistance to change, especially with lean resources
- Benefits gained from 'Tipping Point Leadership'
- 4 common hurdles to tipping point leadership
- How to be a successful tipping point leader within a very bottom-up focused organization
- 'Consumer IAM' & the driving need for modernizing identity in Washington State
- How Steve has approached the challenges related to privacy, ethics & equity
- Differences between the mobile driver's license (mDL) & verified credentials (VC) standards & technology
- How States are approaching the implementation of mDL in different ways and the privacy benefits of 'selective disclosure'
- Steve's advice for privacy technologists to best position them and their orgs at the forefront of privacy and security innovation
- Steve recommended books for learning more about tipping point leadership
Guest Info:
- Connect with Steve on LinkedIn
- Listen to The Nonconformist Innovation Podcast
Resources Mentioned:
- Steve's Interview with Tom Kemp
- Tipping Point Leadership books:
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