Robert B. Reich, the best-selling author and commentator who has served in three presidential administrations, discusses his new book The System: Who Rigged It, How We Fix It, with Anand Giridharadas (Winners Take All). Speaking from opposite coasts, the two generate a blistering analysis of elections, banking, capitalism, corruption, and hope, including insights on how the spread of COVID-19 was affected by -- and will affect -- America's policies and political culture. (Recorded March 31, 2020)