Health Secretary Wes Streeting didn't want to get moved to the Home Office in the recent reshuffle - and he planned how to get out of it if the job was offered.
Beth asks also asks him about future strike action by doctors.
He's clear in his warning to members of the BMA: "The NHS is hanging by a thread, don’t pull it."
The interview was recorded at Labour Party conference.
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