Trump Indicted AGAIN, Now For January 6, with Andy McCarthy, Julie Kelly, Dave Aronberg, and Mike Davis | Ep. 600
Aug 2, 2023
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Former President Trump has been indicted again, this time related to January 6th. Megyn Kelly is joined by legal experts Andy McCarthy, Dave Aronberg, and Mike Davis to discuss Trump's defense, the left's plan to take him down, the trial timeline, whether it could go to the Supreme Court, electoral switching from 2016 to fake electors now, Trump pressuring Mike Pence, the DOJ, and his state of mind on January 6th. Journalist Julie Kelly also joins to discuss the judge's potential bias, a connection between Biden corruption news and the indictments, Trump's potential imprisonment or house arrest, and the impact of the indictment on the primary and general election.
The podcast discusses the politically motivated indictment of former President Donald Trump in relation to the January 6th Capitol riot, criticizing it as an attempt to undermine his political prospects.
The podcast scrutinizes the specific legal theories outlined in the indictment, questioning their validity and discussing potential defense arguments, including Trump's state of mind and the protections of the First Amendment.
The podcast speculates on the potential role of the Supreme Court in deciding the outcome of the case, highlighting its conservative leaning and acknowledging the complexity of the legal arguments involved.
Deep dives
The Indictment and Political Motives
The podcast episode discusses the recent indictment of former President Donald Trump, which is seen as a politically motivated move. The host and guest analyze the different charges brought against Trump and question their legal validity. They highlight how the indictment focuses on Trump's actions and speeches related to the January 6th Capitol riot, and how it attempts to connect them to broader claims of election fraud. They discuss the defense arguments, including Trump's state of mind and the legality of his actions. Overall, they criticize the indictment as an attempt to undermine Trump's political prospects rather than a legitimate criminal case.
The Legal Theories and Key Points
The podcast delves into the specific legal theories and key points outlined in the indictment. They address the allegations of fake and alternative electors, the supposed pressure on Vice President Mike Pence, and the use of the Department of Justice to support false claims of election fraud. The host and guest provide analysis on each of these points, questioning their criminality and discussing potential defense arguments. They emphasize the importance of examining Trump's state of mind and the protections provided by the First Amendment in evaluating the charges.
The Strength of the Indictment
The podcast episode scrutinizes the strength of the indictment and raises doubts about its validity. The host and guest challenge the way the indictment seeks to link Trump's actions to obstruction of an official proceeding and conspiracy to defraud the United States. They criticize its reliance on political speeches, claims of false hope, and the interpretation of Trump's response to the Capitol riot. The podcast also highlights the political motives behind the indictment and the potential impact on Trump's future political endeavors.
The Role of the Supreme Court
In discussing the indictment, the podcast speculates on the role of the Supreme Court in this case. The host and guest suggest that the Supreme Court is likely to play a significant role in deciding the outcome, particularly due to its conservative leaning. They express skepticism about the strength and validity of the charges and anticipate a potential motion to dismiss the case. However, they acknowledge the unpredictability of the court's decisions and the complexity of the legal arguments involved.
Possible Precedent for Using Criminal Charges
There is a precedent for using criminal charges beyond the economic scope, as seen with the successful charges against Paul Manafort and the Russian trolls involved in election interference. This suggests that the charges against Donald Trump in the podcast episode may not be easily overturned by the Supreme Court, regardless of his guilt or innocence.
Potential Impact of the Case on Trump's Presidential Candidacy
If Donald Trump were to have a trial and be convicted before November 2024, it does not necessarily prevent him from running for the presidency. Historical examples, like Lyndon LaRouche and Eugene Debs, demonstrate that individuals can still run for president, even from a jail cell. However, the timing and outcome of the case, along with potential appeals, remain uncertain, making it an unprecedented situation.
Former President Trump has been indicted... again, this time related to January 6. Megyn Kelly is joined by legal experts Andy McCarthy, Dave Aronberg, and Mike Davis to discuss the new Jack Smith indictment, what Trump's defense could be, how the left's plan to take down Trump is making him more popular, when to expect the trial to take place, whether it has a chance to go to the Supreme Court, how the left and media treated "electors" switching in 2016 to "fake electors" now with Trump, how Trump may have pressured VP Mike Pence and whether that was a crime, Trump's pressure on the DOJ and how that relates to the indictment, what Trump's state of mind was on January 6th and how that's relevant to Jack Smith's charges, if he's convicted whether he'll still be able to be elected president, and more. Then journalist Julie Kelly joins to discuss the problem for the Trump team with the judge in this case given her past 1/6 cases,whether there's a connection between Biden corruption news and the indictments of Trump, the possibility Trump could be imprisoned or on house arrest while he awaits trial, the status of the January 6 defendants, how the indictment might affect the primary and general election, and more.