Our theme this season is disruption, and today, ISF CEO Steve Durbin and podcast host Tavia Gilbert discuss digital totalitarianism, a topic based on the ISF's reporting for the Astana Club, an international discussion platform that gathers prominent political figures, diplomats, and experts from the world's top analytical centers. Today’s conversation focuses on how most governments are struggling with how to rein in big tech companies in order to protect their citizens’ privacy.