The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

527. Gay Marriage, Surrogacy, Divorce & Hookup Culture | Katy Faust

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Mar 6, 2025
Katy Faust, author and founder of Them Before Us, fiercely advocates for children's rights to both a mother and a father. In a gripping discussion, she critiques modern family structures, emphasizing how hookup culture detrimentally affects women and their long-term well-being. Katy argues for the necessity of marriage centered around children and explores the ethical complexities of surrogacy. She delves into the societal implications of family dynamics and stresses that prioritizing children's needs is essential in shaping a healthier future.
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INSIGHT

Biological Parent Advantage

  • Two-parent homes are not inherently advantageous for children.
  • The ideal scenario is two married biological parents raising their children.
ANECDOTE

Dave Rubin's Surrogacy Journey

  • Jordan Peterson discusses his friend, Dave Rubin, who is gay and used surrogacy to have children.
  • Peterson notes the immense difficulty, expense, and commitment involved in this path.
INSIGHT

The Three Mothers

  • Surrogacy denies children their genetic, birth, and social mothers.
  • This act of intentional separation deprives children of crucial maternal roles and bonding experiences.
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