

Mary Trump & Jason Leopold
Oct 2, 2025
Mary Trump, a psychologist and author, delves into Donald Trump's cognitive decline, analyzing his behavior and its implications for the presidency. Investigative reporter Jason Leopold shares shocking findings from his research on Jeffrey Epstein's emails, revealing connections to high-profile figures like Peter Mandelson and Alan Dershowitz. The discussion also uncovers disturbing insights about Epstein's manipulation of women and hints at Trump's involvement. Both guests tackle the media's role in normalizing extreme rhetoric and the broader political consequences.
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Threat Response Drives Trump’s Public Stunts
- Mary Trump says Trump horns in on others' spotlight to relieve perceived threats and seize attention.
- She frames his behavior as basic Trump psychology aimed at appearing tougher and more dominant.
Flooding The Zone Normalizes Extremes
- Mary Trump argues Trump floods the zone with repetition to normalize extreme actions and comments.
- She warns corporate media help by "sane-washing" incoherent rhetoric into acceptability.
Court Delays Enable Ongoing Unconstitutional Acts
- Mary Trump links the Supreme Court majority to enabling Trump's imperial presidency by delaying checks.
- She says the Court's shadow docket and delays let unconstitutional acts become routine.