353 | How the Consulting Industry Warped the Economy, Infantilized Government, and Weakened Business with Mariana Mazzucato
Mar 14, 2023
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Author Mariana Mazzucato discusses the negative impact of the consulting industry in government and business, highlighting short-termism, outsourcing, and the importance of addressing global challenges collectively. They also explore the role of consultants in government funding and propose solutions for finding the proper balance between the private sector, public sector, and consulting industry.
Collaboration among different sectors is crucial for addressing global problems, requiring well-governed sectors that work together towards common goals.
Relying on consultants to fill gaps in the public sector's capacity and innovation leads to a less capable government and a reliance on an industry that benefits from government inefficiency.
Government support programs should incorporate conditions to ensure effective use of public funds and promote long-term value creation, redirecting the economy towards sustainability and inclusivity.
Deep dives
The importance of collaboration between public and private sectors in solving global challenges
The speaker emphasizes the need for different actors in the economic system to work together to address global problems such as climate change, health systems, and the digital divide. This collaboration necessitates well-governed individual sectors and an understanding of how they can work together to achieve common goals.
The limitations of the traditional view of the public sector
The speaker criticizes the idea that the public sector's role is solely to fix market failures and react to issues in the private sector. This reactive mindset leads to a lack of incentive for the public sector to invest in its own capacity and innovation, and reliance on consultants to fill the gaps. The private sector's focus on short-term profits further exacerbates the issue.
The negative impact of the consulting industry
The speaker highlights the problematic nature of the consulting industry, particularly when it lacks expertise in the areas it advises on and has a conflict of interest due to its business model. The trend of outsourcing government functions and decision-making to consultants leads to a less capable and insecure government, as well as a reliance on an industry that benefits from government inefficiency. Lack of transparency in consulting relationships can also be damaging to democracy.
The need for conditionality in government support programs
The speaker argues for a shift in government support programs to include conditions that ensure public funds are used effectively and promote long-term value creation. They give examples of French and German government interventions that attached conditions to financial support, such as commitments to reduce carbon emissions or improve working conditions. Conditionality helps redirect the economy towards sustainability and inclusivity.
Reimagining the role of government
The speaker calls for a shift in the narrative and role of government to be more proactive, purpose-oriented, and innovative. They advocate for a direction-setting role for government, collaborating with the private sector, and learning from past successes and failures. Government should aim to co-create solutions, invest in building capabilities, and have a portfolio approach to investments, capturing the upside while socializing risks.
Mariana Mazzucato, author (with Rosie Collington) of The Big Con: How the Consulting Industry Weakens Our Businesses, Infantilizes Our Governments, and Warps Our Economies, joins The Realignment. Mariana and Marshall discuss how her critique of consulting fits into her previous work on the future of capitalism, the failures of "expert" consultants in business and government, from Healthcare.gov to COVID, and what a reformed role for the industry looks like.
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