In this episode, Derek and Nathan are joined by Victoria Jackson and Andy Schwarz to discuss amateurism in the NCAA and recent name, image, likeness developments that have been getting a lot of ink.  Victoria Jackson is Clinical Assistant Professor of History in the School of Historical, Philosophical, and Religious Studies at Arizona State University where her work focuses on the history of sport and a former NCAA 10,000 meter National Champion. Andy Schwarz is an antitrust economist and partner at the economic consulting firm OSKR where he consults on complex litigation matters in antitrust and sports. He is also the Co-Founder of the Professional Collegiate League and serves as its Chief Innovation Officer. Victoria and Andy provide a comprehensive primer on amateurism in the NCAA. Victoria breaks down the history of amateurism and how it has produced a fundamentally racialized system of exploitation. Andy then explains recent legal developments that frame the current flexible usage of the term. They then explain how both the NCAA's April 29 press release on NIL and full working group recommendations fail to substantively improve the rights of college athletic workers. Andy explains how the PCL offers an alternative model for a more just version of college revenue sport. Finally, both offer their readings on what the future holds for college sport in the face of this pandemic and the shifting legal and competitive landscape.   You can find Victoria on Twitter @historyrunner and Andy @andyhre. __________________________________________________________________________   As always, please like, share, and rate us on your favorite podcast app, and give follow us on Twitter or Instagram. @Derekcrim @JohannaMellis @Nkalamb @EndofSportPod www.TheEndofSport.com   **For a transcription of this episode please click here. Huge thanks to @Punkadmic for making this happen!**