The Daily Beast Podcast

How Trump Aides Mock Him Behind His Back: Wolff

Nov 2, 2025
Michael Wolff, an award-winning journalist famous for his insights on the Trump era, joins to discuss the bizarre happenings within the White House. He reveals that staff now refer to the East Wing as the 'Epstein Ballroom,' shedding light on the lingering impact of Jeffrey Epstein on elite circles. Wolff also dives into Trump’s controversial crypto pardons and the financial connections benefiting the Trump family. With Trump's poll numbers plummeting, he examines the fallout and high-stakes dynamics of his presidency, making sense of the chaos.
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ANECDOTE

White House Calls It The 'Epstein Ballroom'

  • Michael Wolff recounts a White House insider casually calling the East Wing the "Epstein ballroom."
  • He describes staffers' ironic self-awareness about Epstein's shadow over Trump world.
INSIGHT

Epstein's Shadow Keeps Bringing Down Associates

  • Wolff notes Epstein has toppled many connected figures but not Trump despite their long friendship.
  • He suggests Epstein's shadow persists and threatens to bring down successive associates, possibly reaching Trump.
ANECDOTE

Publisher Edits And A CEO Exit

  • Wolff describes the HarperCollins/Wall Street Journal controversy over excerpts tied to the Trumps and Epstein.
  • He recounts publishers editing editions and a CEO's sudden resignation after the controversy.
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