Brian Dunning, an expert on critical thinking, science and skepticism, joins Josh to discuss the lack of scientific evidence for UFOs, the escalation of interest in UFOs, hypothetical actions of humans and aliens, the scarcity of high-quality UFO photos and videos, the role of evidence in establishing truth, skepticism and the pursuit of truth, and debunking myths about the Bermuda Triangle and controversy of broadcasting into the universe.
The renewed interest in UFOs is driven by a small group of career ufologists and authors who control the narrative.
The probability of alien civilizations visiting Earth is highly unlikely due to the limitations of faster-than-light travel and vast distances in space.
Skepticism, evidence, and scientific explanations are crucial in understanding the world and uncovering reliable truths.
Deep dives
UFOs and Alien Civilizations
The speaker discusses the changing attitude towards UFOs and whether UFOs are caused by alien civilizations. The speaker argues that there has been no change to the science on this topic and that there has been no new evidence supporting the existence of UFOs caused by aliens. The renewed interest in UFOs is attributed to a small group of career ufologists and UFO authors who have been able to control the narrative. The speaker hopes that with the emergence of new UFO committees and task forces questioning the validity of UFO claims, the interest in UFOs will fade. The motivation behind the interest in UFOs is seen as a combination of personal curiosity, national security concerns, and the influence of TV shows promoting UFO stories. The speaker also shares a personal experience of seeing a UFO-like object in the sky, which was later identified as a formation of planes. Overall, the speaker emphasizes the importance of relying on evidence and scientific explanations rather than unsubstantiated claims.
Existence of Alien Life and Traveling across the Universe
The speaker discusses the probability of life existing elsewhere in the universe and the limitations of faster-than-light travel. The discussion starts by exploring exoplanets and the potential for finding biosignatures and signs of life beyond Earth. The speaker acknowledges the excitement of the possibility of alien life and highlights the real science behind the search for extraterrestrial life. However, when it comes to the likelihood of alien civilizations visiting Earth, the speaker emphasizes the limitations imposed by the laws of physics. The arguments against faster-than-light travel and the challenges of traversing vast distances in space are highlighted. The speaker points out that while advanced civilizations may exist, their ability to overcome these limitations is highly unlikely. The speaker also addresses the idea that aliens may possess capabilities beyond our current understanding of physics, arguing that such claims are not supported by evidence. The importance of distinguishing between science and wishful thinking is emphasized.
The Role of Evidence and Skepticism
The speaker reflects on the importance of evidence and skepticism in understanding the world. The speaker shares personal experiences and interests that led to an exploration of science and skepticism. The emphasis is on seeking verifiable evidence and using the scientific method to explore and solve mysteries. The discussion highlights the need to critically evaluate claims and not rely solely on speculation or anecdotes. The speaker acknowledges the appeal of alternative explanations and the desire for a sense of wonder, but emphasizes the importance of relying on evidence-based explanations and the pursuit of truth. The speaker argues that skepticism, when applied properly, leads to a more reliable understanding of the world, even if some mysteries remain unsolved or open to interpretation.
The Appeal of Conspiracies and the Narrative Leap
The speaker addresses the appeal of conspiracies and narratives that challenge conventional explanations. The discussion highlights the desire for a sense of mystery and exploration of the unknown. The speaker acknowledges that some individuals may find comfort or excitement in alternative explanations or conspiratorial thinking. However, the speaker emphasizes the need for verifiable evidence and the role of science in providing reliable explanations. The balance between skepticism and maintaining an open mind to new possibilities is discussed, and the importance of critically evaluating claims is highlighted. The speaker suggests that while some individuals may enjoy the allure of fantastical explanations, the pursuit of truth through evidence-based approaches is more likely to lead to accurate understandings of the world.
The Bermuda Triangle and the Importance of Evidence
The speaker addresses the mystery surrounding the Bermuda Triangle and highlights the lack of evidence supporting supernatural claims. The discussion reveals that the Bermuda Triangle originated from a fictional book and that the famous disappearances associated with it have been debunked. The specific example of a group of planes disappearing is explained as a result of the instructor's faulty navigation and misinterpretation of their location. The speaker emphasizes the importance of evidence in solving mysteries and providing accurate explanations. The role of scientific investigation in unraveling supposed paranormal events is highlighted, giving a clearer understanding and diminishing the allure of fantastical explanations.
Brian Dunning is an expert on critical thinking, science and skepticism. His weekly podcast, Skeptoid, debunks conspiracy theories, and his new film is “The UFO Movie THEY Don't Want You to See”. Here, Josh tries to get to the bottom of what’s really going on with UFOs.